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Friday, September 08, 2006

Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory -- birthplace of the holocaust?

Well, if you believe the book "War Against the Weak" by Edwin Black, then you might think that CSHL was the birthplace of the holocaust. The introduction of this book says,

Within these pages you will discover the sad truth of how the scientific rationales that drove killer doctors at Auschwitz were first concocted on Long Island at the Carnegie Institution’s eugenic enterprise at Cold Spring Harbor.

Wikipedia gives a good short history of CSHL. An early director of the CSHL, Charles B. Davenport, was a rather unsavory racist character. Contrary to the negative image that Black's book gives it, CSHL is actually a very prestigious laboratory where a lot of important research on genetics was done.

A detailed history of CSHL is starts here (this history incorrectly says that the Eugenics Record Office closed in 1940 -- it closed in 1944).

The Eugenics Record Office was part of CSHL:

In 1910, the Eugenics Record Office was founded in Cold Spring Harbor, New York, as a center for the study of human heredity and a repository for genetic data on human traits. It merged with the Station for Experimental Evolution in 1920 to become the Department of Genetics at the Carnegie Institution, and under the direction of Charles B. Davenport and later of Albert Blakeslee and Milislav Demerec, it became the most important center for eugenic research in the nation. However with intellectual currents shifting, the Carnegie Institution stopped funding the office in 1939. It remained active until 1944, when its records were transferred to the Charles Fremont Dight Institute for the Promotion of Human Genetics at the University of Minnesota. When the Dight closed in 1991, the genealogical material was filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah and given to the Center for Human Genetics; the non-genealogical material was not filmed and was given to the American Philosophical Society Library.

It is believed that distaste for the Nazi eugenics programs is what caused the Carnegie Institution to stop funding the office.

There are legitimate forms of eugenics that are being practiced today, like genetic counseling.

Anyway, I oppose the "politically-correct" notion that any mention of a connection between Darwin and Hitler is taboo. I also oppose the notion that the study of this connection is or should be of no practical consequence and is therefore pointless. This is history and should be studied for history's own sake, if for no other reason. The connection between Darwin and Hitler is not a subject that I am crazy about, but I just feel that the subject should be studied objectively.

I have been following this Darwin-to-Hitler debate for some time, and I am surprised that I am now learning about CSHL's role for the first time. I didn't see the TV program "Darwin's Deadly Legacy" because of an error in the announced show time on the Coral Ridge Ministries website, and I am wondering if the show mentioned CSHL.



Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

> Anyway, I oppose the "politically-correct" notion that any mention of a connection between Darwin and Hitler is taboo. <

I don't think that anyone says that it is taboo. What they do say is that it is pointless.

> I also oppose the notion that the study of this connection is or should be of no practical consequence and is therefore pointless. <

You may oppose the notion that the Sun rises in the East. That is certainly of no consequence to the real world.

Friday, September 08, 2006 9:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Individuals initially gravitate toward like kinds clustered in groups. Birds of a feather and all that.

This can lead to genetic inbreeding as with the Russian Royal family's now famous hemophelia problems.

But it takes courage for the individuals to see the value of genetic diversification, thus saving their group's gene puddle with connectedness to the large human gene pool.

Hitler would have been a stronger human, and decidedly more compassionate, if he had had slated eyes and curly hair above his little mustache.


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