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Saturday, July 19, 2008

Yes, Virginia, Fatheaded Ed Brayton is a demagogic stereotyping bigot

The Texas Citizens for Science website has the following announcement:

NEW! 2008 July 13 -- Science Education in Texas: Keeping It Religion-Free. Speakers to Highlight Dangers of Creationism Encroaching into the Public Schools.
The event is at 6:30 p.m., Wednesday evening, July 16, UT Austin Campus, Burdine Hall, Room 108.
Admission is free, and free parking is available at C Lot after 5:45 p.m. and in the LBJ Lot anytime.

Science education in Texas is under attack as never before, as evidenced by the recent ouster of State Director of Science Education Christine Castillo Comer for the offense of promoting science education. Now, as Comer pursues her lawsuit for wrongful termination, the Center for Inquiry-Austin, Texas Citizens for Science, and University of Texas Section of Integrative Biology invite the public to a forum on the fight to keep evolution at the forefront in science education.

One of the speakers was Fatheaded Ed Brayton:
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Ed Brayton -- Yes Virginia, It Really Is All About Religion.

Brayton, founder and president of Michigan Citizens for Science, is the voice behind the popular blogs Dispatches from the Culture Wars and The Panda's Thumb. He will show, despite claims to the contrary by proponents, the solely religious nature of the Intelligent Design movement.

That is the most unscrupulous kind of stereotyping. That's like charging that Darwinism is solely about atheism or anti-religion, charges that to my knowledge no one has seriously made. That the organizers of the event would include a speech with such a theme speaks volumes about where they are coming from. Actually, IMO Ed's speech was ironically a good thing because it must have done some damage to the credibility of the whole event and the organizers.

Also, Ed is not the voice behind Panda's Thumb -- he is one of about 30 co-bloggers on Panda's Thumb and he practically never posts articles there. When he does post on Panda's Thumb, it is usually just to refer readers to specific articles on his personal blog, Dispatches from the Culture Wars.
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Anonymous Michael said...

It's nice to see the lobby group in Texas there worried about ID coming into the public schools...I guess many atheists are no longer worried about what happened in LA when a critical thinking bill was passed...lol...Stereotyping is all too common in the world of secularists who think they know more than they actually do. I believe they spend more time worrying about ID being taught in the schools than actually trying to catch up with the rest of the world in education. Test scores in science and math are higher in many other countries.

It's interesting to note with the subject of stereotyping, Lizzette Reynolds the very person who called for Castillo Comer's termination never was a teacher. But was a lobbyist, who worked for not a Dem, but as Bush's deputy legislative director when he was governor of Texas. Bush would be considered a "creationist" however he appoints people like Reynolds who is hostile towards ID or Creationism.

Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous F2XL said...

Hey Larry, I'm going to shut down the opposition with one big-ass post, but in the mean time, take the time to delete comments which seek to do nothing constructive.

I'm sure you'll love the sense of justice you'll get from deleting phea's comments. :D

Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Virginia said...

Were you speaking to me?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:03:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

F2XL said...

>>>>>> Hey Larry, I'm going to shut down the opposition with one big-ass post, but in the mean time, take the time to delete comments which seek to do nothing constructive. <<<<<<

I can't do that -- I am totally opposed to arbitrary censorship of comments. I censor comments only in the most extreme circumstances, e.g., (1) gossip about my private affairs and (2) deliberate lying about objective facts (e.g., ViU's statements that Judge Jones told a newspaper that he was going to follow the law whereas Jones actually told the newspaper that the school board election results would not affect his decision).

Thanks for your contributions to this blog.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

>(2) deliberate lying about objective facts (e.g., ViU's statements that Judge Jones told a newspaper that he was going to follow the law whereas Jones actually told the newspaper that the school board election results would not affect his decision).<

Then why do your keep repeating this deliberate lie?

Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Jim said...

"That's like charging that Darwinism is solely about atheism or anti-religion"

The evidence that ID is nothing more than repackaged creationism is well established. Also, discussions about ID (in my experience) that DON'T invoke God are by far the exception and not the norm. Hell, most of the time when God isn't brought up it's because the ID supporter is conscientiously avoiding it to make that exact point.

"charges that to my knowledge no one has seriously made."

HAHA I know you've posted on uncommonly dense so you either don't pay attention or are lying. The pairing of evolution and atheism is so constant it deserves its own Greek letter.

Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:09:00 PM  

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