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Friday, September 26, 2008

New "no trolls" symbol


OK, you lousy trolls -- the party's over.

IMO the above symbol is more accurate than the symbol with the dwarf -- in folklore, trolls are dwarfs or giants. IMO the Internet term "troll" was derived from the fishing term -- Internet trolling is like fishing for angry responses. In fishing, "troll" can mean a lure -- or a lure and line -- used in trolling.

IMO good titles for the above symbol would be "No trolls" or "Please don't feed the trolls."

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Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> IMO the above symbol is more accurate than the symbol with the dwarf <

As usual you try to redefine commonly understood terms. You seem to be the one fishing for angry responses as you do all that is possible to try to get needed attention. Of course the other version of troll could also apply to you. There is little difference between a pathetic creature living in a cave, and your own situation.

Friday, September 26, 2008 8:02:00 PM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

For once, Larry is correct about the meaning of a term!

Still a ways to go before he reaches "stopped clock" accuracy rates...

Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, Kevin, you see, the de facto Larry definition of 'troll' is actually 'anyone who successfully proves me wrong'. You are correct that, in essence, he correctly identified what most other people on the internet mean by the term 'troll', though.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:22:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> You are correct that, in essence, he correctly identified what most other people on the internet mean by the term 'troll', though. <<<<<<

Wrong, dunghill, a lot of people think that "Internet troll" refers to the mythological character -- that is why a "no trolls" symbol has a dwarf.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:07:00 PM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

> IMO the above symbol is more accurate than the symbol with the dwarf <

You claim this because it's wrong.

It's that "not even stopped clock" thang. Why accept anything when there's a way to misconstrue it?

Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>>> IMO the above symbol is more accurate than the symbol with the dwarf <

You claim this because it's wrong. <<<<<<<

The troll-fishing analogy makes more sense than the folkloric troll analogy.

Anyway, why would I claim something because it's wrong?

Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

< Anyway, why would I claim something because it's wrong? >

Good question. You tell us. Awaiting answer with bated breath.

Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:05:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>> Good question. You tell us. <<<<<<

It was your idea, not mine. So you tell us.

>>>>> Awaiting answer with bated breath. <<<<<<

I'm not holding my breath while awaiting your answer.

Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wrong, dunghill, a lot of people think that "Internet troll" refers to the mythological character

ROFL

Even when I agree you're right to define 'troll' that way, you still find a way to argue.

If that isn't a clear-cut sign that YOU are a troll, I don't know what is.

Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

Hmm. It looks like I have to retract my earlier comments in this thread; sorry about that. I've done some research and Larry's view of internet "troll" as fisherman is more supportable than the "troll" of Norse mythology. (I should have known better than to argue with Kevin!)

I have to agree, though, with this comment: "Even when I agree you're right to define 'troll' that way, you still find a way to argue."

BTW, that was "bated" breath and not "baited". :-}

Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous dootland said...

Larry did preface nearly every sentence with IMO (In My Opinion) so he had a kind of disclaimer concerning internet troll origins.

From all the abuse, insults, and ridicule I have observed Larry receive here on his own blog perhaps his blog symbol could be a shirt with a note taped on the back with the words "Kick Me".

It seems every word Larry types he has to wrangle and argue and fight vigorously over them. The response is like walking down a street with "Kick Me" on the back of the shirt.

Either Larry's mind is going to become saber-sharp from all the debate or he's going to go stark raving mad gibbering and slobbering over his keyboard, shrieking at the monitor from a perceived troll invasion.

Monday, September 29, 2008 3:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Hector said...

> From all the abuse, insults, and ridicule I have observed Larry receive here on his own blog perhaps his blog symbol could be a shirt with a note taped on the back with the words "Kick Me". <

Have you been blind to the abuse, insults, and ridicule that Larry dishes out himself? It is rare that he is not the one who initiates these things.

> Either Larry's mind is going to become saber-sharp from all the debate or he's going to go stark raving mad gibbering and slobbering over his keyboard, shrieking at the monitor from a perceived troll invasion. <

It is clearly the latter.

Monday, September 29, 2008 6:52:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Anonymous said...
>>>>>> Even when I agree you're right to define 'troll' that way, you still find a way to argue. <<<<<

What? I was arguing with 'Nonymous, who disagreed with me.

'Nonymous said...

>>>>>> (I should have known better than to argue with Kevin!) <<<<<<<

Neither of you know better than to argue with me.

dootland said...

>>>>>> Larry did preface nearly every sentence with IMO (In My Opinion) so he had a kind of disclaimer concerning internet troll origins. <<<<<<

I say IMO because I have no proof of the origin of the term -- and it could have more than one origin. I just feel that the fishing troll analogy makes more sense than the folkloric troll analogy.

An example of a "no trolls" symbol with a dwarf is here.

>>>>> The response is like walking down a street with "Kick Me" on the back of the shirt. <<<<<<

No, doofus, it's like walking down a street with a shirt that says, "I'm always kicking their butts -- that's why they don't like me." (-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger)

Monday, September 29, 2008 9:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Hector said...

> No, doofus, it's like walking down a street with a shirt that says, "I'm always kicking their butts -- that's why they don't like me." (-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger) <

Larry, whom as you can see has rarely, if ever won a point in the continuing debate, says this in all seriousness as his ass has been booted right over the goalposts yet again.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:18:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

See? Like I said: I'm always kicking their butts -- that's why they don't like me.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:34:00 AM  
Anonymous dootland said...

Larry...says this in all seriousness as his ass has been booted right over the goalposts yet again.

What imagery! I'm cracking up laughing. I am laughing really hard now. I...ha ha...have nothing to add to this.

too funny

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What? I was arguing with 'Nonymous, who disagreed with me.

1) At that point, 'Nonymous had yet to comment in this thread.

2) You quoted MY post, not 'Nonymous's, then said that.

3) Another common troll tactic is to claim that they were replying to someone else than they actually were. Nuff said, methinks.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

"it's like walking down a street with a shirt that says, "I'm always kicking their butts -- that's why they don't like me."

You certainly should have such a shirt. Is there no justice?

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous dootland said...

"Partisanship is tough because everyone comes after you. Bipartisanship is just like liberalism. It's gutless." --Rush Limbaugh

Perhaps Larry you are a partisan, slugging it out in the trenches. I salute your effort.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> 3) Another common troll tactic is to claim that they were replying to someone else than they actually were. Nuff said, methinks. <

This is like Larry replying to posts that were allegedly made by others, but censored. Did the original posts ever exist? If so, did they say anything related to what Larry is pretending to reply to?

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:14:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> 2) You quoted MY post, not 'Nonymous's, then said that. >>>>>>

You stupid fathead, I was responding to 'Nonymous's statement, "You claim this because it's wrong."

You lousy trolls always have to be one-up -- you just can't ever admit I am right about something -- you can't admit that I am right about the troll analogy.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:31:00 PM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

"you can't admit that I am right about the troll analogy"

But ... but ... I thought it was unanimous. ???

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Hector said...

> You lousy trolls always have to be one-up -- you just can't ever admit I am right about something <

But you never admit being wrong about nearly everything.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You stupid fathead, I was responding to 'Nonymous's statement, "You claim this because it's wrong."

This is funny in the extreme. At the point in time you made that post, the only people to have commented in this thread were Voice in the Urbanness, W. Kevin Vicklund and me. Your response was the fourth comment. 'Nonymous's post, where he said what you claim you were responding to, was the FIFTH comment, and, going by the timestamp, made around two and a half hours later. So how, exactly, were you able to respond to a post two and a half hours BEFORE it was made?

You lousy trolls always have to be one-up -- you just can't ever admit I am right about something -- you can't admit that I am right about the troll analogy.

And this is even funnier - I DID say you were right. You, however, seemingly decided to try to find a way to argue anyway.

So, who's the troll, again?

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:46:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Instead of just admitting that I am right about the troll analogy and leaving it at that, you lousy trolls just keep badgering me about other things I have said here. That is one-upmanship.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:49:00 AM  
Anonymous 'Nonymous said...

A little anticipatory hostility never hurt anyone. Did it?

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is one-upmanship.

This? Coming from Larry? Sorry, but you owe me a new irony meter - mine's just exploded.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:12:00 AM  

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