Merry Kitschmas: Darwinists still crowing about Kitzmiller decision
Five years later, Darwinists are still crowing about their Pyrrhic victory in the Kitzmiller v. Dover case. So far as I know, never before has so much weight been given to the opinion of a single judge. Furthermore, Judge Jones is a crackpot activist judge who said in a Dickinson College commencement speech that the decision was based on his cockamamie notion that the Founders based the Establishment Clause upon a belief that organized religions are not "true" religions -- here is what he said:
There is no way that the above interpretation can be derived from the Establishment Clause, which says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Ironically, when Judge Jones gave the commencement speech, he was standing behind the Dickinson College seal -- designed by USA Founders Benjamin Rush and John Dickinson -- containing a picture of an open bible and the Latin-language Dickinson College motto which translates, "Religion and learning, the bulwark of liberty."
Unfortunately, the speech is no longer posted on the Dickinson College wesite.
In contrast to their harping on the Dover decision, the Darwinists have been mostly silent about the Comer decision. That is not too surprising -- in the Comer case, all four federal judges who heard the case -- the district court judge and the three appeals court judges -- ruled against Chris Comer. The Comer decisions showed that there is a limit to how far judges are willing to go in opposing criticism of evolution in public schools. Now we have the "Comer trap" in addition to the "Dover trap"! LOL
. . . . . this much is very clear. The Founders believed that true religion was not something handed down by a church or contained in a Bible, but was to be found through free, rational inquiry. At bottom then, this core set of beliefs led the Founders, who constantly engaged and questioned things, to secure their idea of religious freedom by barring any alliance between church and state.
There is no way that the above interpretation can be derived from the Establishment Clause, which says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Ironically, when Judge Jones gave the commencement speech, he was standing behind the Dickinson College seal -- designed by USA Founders Benjamin Rush and John Dickinson -- containing a picture of an open bible and the Latin-language Dickinson College motto which translates, "Religion and learning, the bulwark of liberty."
Unfortunately, the speech is no longer posted on the Dickinson College wesite.
In contrast to their harping on the Dover decision, the Darwinists have been mostly silent about the Comer decision. That is not too surprising -- in the Comer case, all four federal judges who heard the case -- the district court judge and the three appeals court judges -- ruled against Chris Comer. The Comer decisions showed that there is a limit to how far judges are willing to go in opposing criticism of evolution in public schools. Now we have the "Comer trap" in addition to the "Dover trap"! LOL
Labels: Chris Comer, Judge Jones (new #3), Kitzmiller v. Dover (new #3)
posted by Larry Fafarman | 12/21/2010 08:50:00 PM
8 Comments:
The judge was right. You might try actually reading some history.
Bozo, I have read plenty of history. This blog has humdreds of articles about Judge Jones and the Kitzmiller case.
I'm familiar with the case, having read Monkey Girl, a good book if you haven't read it. I was referring actually to history about the founding fathers and their religious views.
>>>>> I'm familiar with the case, having read Monkey Girl, a good book if you haven't read it <<<<<
I've read parts of it. It has some good research but is terribly biased.
>>>>> I was referring actually to history about the founding fathers and their religious views. <<<<<<
I've studied that too. And even Fatheaded Ed Brayton admitted that some of the biggest supporters of the establishment clause came from organized religions. And in the final analysis, it does not really matter what their personal religious views were, because there is no way that Judge Jones' imterpretation can be derived from the words of the establishment clause.
the infinite complexity of the human body is so taken for granted, that human intelligence(or lack of it) can't explain anybody's insisting that evolution could be even remotely possible.
it must go deeper than that. to the level of the human spiritual soul.
to deny that God has made things as they are is a frightening, daunting statement. I would not want to face judgment day with that on my list.
Although some of the early leaders of our nation were Deist, nearly all professed the belief that our nation wouldn't last long apart from a foundation of Biblical law. What this means is that the foundation of our government was built upon the historic Western notion of the eternal, unchanging law of God. Any system based on pure humanism has little reason for the citizens to work or promote such a society - unless by gunpoint. And how can that promote the inalienable rights of humanity? I have several essays I've written over at http://www.missouritenth.wordpress.com - if anyone is interested in learning more about our government, Christianity, and our rights through our State and nation.
Silver Lake Art said,
>>>>>>> Although some of the early leaders of our nation were Deist, nearly all professed the belief that our nation wouldn't last long apart from a foundation of Biblical law.<<<<<<<
Maybe the USA was really founded as a Christian nation and the purpose of the establishment clause was just to prevent any Christian sect from becoming the state religion. To me, that makes much more sense than Judge Jones' view that the establishment clause was based on the notion that Christianity is not a "true" religion.
Hypothetical question. If I were looking for a comfortable chair, should I
a) look in a catalog for a chair that is advertised as comfortable, or
b) go to a chair store and try out the chairs for myself?
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