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My biggest motivation for creating my own blogs was to avoid the arbitrary censorship practiced by other blogs and various other Internet forums. Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles. Comments containing nothing but insults and/or ad hominem attacks are discouraged. My non-response to a particular comment should not be interpreted as agreement, approval, or inability to answer.

Sunday, October 01, 2006

Email campaign to have "Of Pandas and People" officially designated as a "banned book"

An article on another blog reported that Deborah Caldwell-Stone, Deputy Director of the American Library Association's Office for Intellectual Freedom, when asked if she felt that the Kitzmiller ruling would qualify Of Pandas and People as a "banned" book, answered, "we wouldn't consider it that way." That's ridiculous.

I am starting an email campaign to persuade the ALA to officially designate Pandas as a "banned book." I think that just 50 emails would be enough to attract their attention -- I knew a guy who was invited to testify at a Congressional committee hearing solely as a result of 50 form-letters of support mailed in from around the country.

I am also bringing this campaign to the attention of the Discovery Institute (which initiated the idea) and the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, the book's publisher.

You can also contact the ALA toll-free telephone: "For more information on Banned Books Week: Celebrating the Freedom to Read, please contact the American Library Association/Office for Intellectual Freedom at 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4220." However, Banned Books Week is over, so I don't know if this phone number is still good.

Suggested email subject line: Officially recognize "Of Pandas and People" as "banned book"

Suggested text -- though I encourage you to add your own words:

To staffs of the American Library Association and Office for Intellectual Freedom:

I request that the American Library Association issue a press release officially recognizing "Of Pandas and People" as a "banned book."

Your website clearly indicates that you consider the designation "banned book" to include books that are banned from school curricula but not banned from school libraries or other libraries. An oral statement suggesting that students read Pandas was an official part of the curriculum in a school district in Pennsylvania. In Kitzmiller v. Dover, a federal judge banned this oral statement. The judge's written opinion referred to this oral statement as a "curriculum change" 48 times. Also, "Curriculum Committee" appears 24 times in the opinion and "curriculum controversy" appears 9 times. There is no question that the judge banned the book from the curriculum -- even the mere mention of the book was banned from the curriculum. In contrast, most of the books that you feature during Banned Books Week were not banned but were only challenged.

Thank you.

Original short list of email addresses:


("dwood" is the general address for the ALA's Office for Intellectual Freedom and "dstone" is the address of Deborah Caldwell-Stone)

cc: (Discovery Institute staff)


Long list of email addresses:

The following list of about 40 addresses consists of the plaintiffs' attorneys of Kitzmiller v. Dover (Pepper-Hamilton and, the ACLU, and Americans United for Separation of Church and State), the Dover Area School Board, and the staffs of the American Library Association, the Discovery Institute, and the Dover Area School District administration. This list includes the addresses of the preceding list.


I have no email address for the Foundation for Thought and Ethics yet.

For background info, see:

I'm always kicking their butts -- that's why they don't like me


Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

Thank you for the addresses. We will alert them to your disinformation campaign.

Monday, October 02, 2006 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice In The Urbanness said...

I notice that the dunce is getting more and more frantic to post new material. His intended purpose is to distract us from previous posts where his butt is being continually kicked right through the goalposts.

Monday, October 02, 2006 2:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry(?) is clueless but I love his breathtaking inanity.

Monday, October 02, 2006 3:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

Larry(?) has just given another example of a lunatic supporting his side under another thread. A few times he has referred to Dumbski and we have seen the idiot Dumbscot arguing his case. The question becomes: Are there any rational people on the side of ID (another word for creationism)? If there are any, they seem to be keeping a low profile.

Monday, October 02, 2006 5:43:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Fafarman said...

< The question becomes: Are there any rational people on the side of ID ... ? >

Aha! Gotcha, ViW! ;-)

< You are straining too far Dave. You stretch to too great an extreme to find anything to indicate your brother has an advantage over a March hare. >

Same error.

I won't rub it in.

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

> Same error. <

I'm missing it. The second sentence is awkward but its meaning is clear.

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Fafarman said...

> Same error. <

< I'm missing it. The second sentence is awkward but its meaning is clear. >

Not your error -- our joint error.

The point was, asking with a straight face about hypothetical "rational people" resembles my finding signs of rationality in Larry(?)'s comments. You were right -- I was straining too far. Your turn. :-)

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

How could I miss that?

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:52:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Fafarman said...

Larry(?), just out of curiosity, have you read Pandas?

Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:40:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Fake Dave said --

>>>>>have you read Pandas? <<<<<<

Links to book reviews of Pandas are listed here. Unfortunately, there is only one pro-ID review in the list but several anti-ID reviews.

Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice In The Wilderness said...

Fake Larry said...

> Unfortunately, there is only one pro-ID review in the list but several anti-ID reviews. <

Where did they find the nut to write the pro-ID review?

Incidentally you dodged your brother's question about whether or not you read the book. It actually makes little difference with your level of reading comprehension.

Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:57:00 AM  

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