Articles on "plagiarism" charge against Judge Jones
This issue is really heating up fast, so I decided to post this list of articles on the subject for the benefit of readers who want to get a head start:
WorldNetDaily
Panda's Thumb
Uncommon Descent
Dispatches from the Culture Wars
My own articles so far are at --
Behe says Judge Jones plagiarized plaintiffs' briefs
-- and --
Brayton's Answer to plagiarism charge against Judge Jones
The Discovery Institute's study is on --
Comparing Jones and ACLU
I may add to this list as more articles come in. I intend to make some more comments of my own later.
I predict that this is going to be a big one. I think that it is one of the best chances ever to discredit Judge Jones and his Dover opinion.
WorldNetDaily
Panda's Thumb
Uncommon Descent
Dispatches from the Culture Wars
My own articles so far are at --
Behe says Judge Jones plagiarized plaintiffs' briefs
-- and --
Brayton's Answer to plagiarism charge against Judge Jones
The Discovery Institute's study is on --
Comparing Jones and ACLU
I may add to this list as more articles come in. I intend to make some more comments of my own later.
I predict that this is going to be a big one. I think that it is one of the best chances ever to discredit Judge Jones and his Dover opinion.
Labels: Judge Jones (1 of 2)
posted by Larry Fafarman | 12/12/2006 10:44:00 AM
2 Comments:
Well then let me make a counter prediction.
This issue is as dead as ID, and the ID folks will move on to another ridiculous Orwellian proposition to explain why they got their asses handed to them in Dover.
Here's another:
ID will change its name again and expect no one to notice that there's still no science.
And yet another:
ID will never ever never be a valid scientific theory, because it amounts to nothing more than bronze age mythology.
"God dun it" is simply not science.
And lastly:
Dembski et al will continue to make money from the ignorant rubes.
It's the last one that really bothers me.
Fake Dave said,
>>>>This post from PT is a brief and cogent response:
Nick Matzke Dec. 12, 2006 4:29 PM <<<<<
Had the Dover opinion been written in the judge's own words, it would have more credibility and also Judge Jones would not look so much like a mindless hack.
I am now wondering if the opinion shows any evidence that Jones considered the final "findings of fact and conclusions of law" briefs of both sides and not just the plaintiffs' side.
Also, I previously said on this blog,
To Jones' credit (and he does not deserve much), he did not actually ask the plaintiffs' attorneys to write the whole opinion. But where a judge's opinion directly quotes a large section of another court document or any other document, the opinion should acknowledge the source. Readers of the opinion -- potentially including appellate judges -- have a right to know which words are the judge's own and which are not. Also, aren't opinions that are entirely written by one of the parties clearly identified as such, either in the opinion itself or in other court proceedings? Then why shouldn't an opinion section that is written by one of the parties also be clearly identified as such?
Also, a news report said,
Bruce Green, director of Louis Stein Center for Law and Ethics at Fordham Law School, said although it is not typical for judges to adopt one side's proposed findings verbatim, they cannot face sanctions for doing so.
"There's not a rule that categorically forbids it," Green said. "Courts have sometimes criticized the practice, especially when it looks like the judge didn't do any independent thinking." (emphasis added)
There is a lot of subjectivity involved in the interpretation of the charges of "plagiarism" here, so I think that these charges will take a long time to sort out.
Also, I am very disturbed about a particular conclusion of law that was adopted verbatim from a plaintiffs' brief -- that is the subject of a future blog article here.
The Kitzmiller v. Dover opinion, as just the opinion of a single district court judge, had little enough precedential value to begin with, and now it looks like it is going to have even less.
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