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This site is named for the famous statement of US Congressman Willard Duncan Vandiver from Missouri : "I`m from Missouri -- you'll have to show me." This site is dedicated to skepticism of official dogma in all subjects. Just-so stories are not accepted here. This is a site where controversial subjects such as evolution theory and the Holocaust may be freely debated.

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My biggest motivation for creating my own blogs was to avoid the arbitrary censorship practiced by other blogs and various other Internet forums. Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles. Comments containing nothing but insults and/or ad hominem attacks are discouraged. My non-response to a particular comment should not be interpreted as agreement, approval, or inability to answer.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007

Cheri Yecke update

Just for the record, I am reporting that Cheri Yecke was not selected to be the next Florida Commissioner of Education; she was not the favorite among the three finalists for the position and hence her non-selection was not unexpected. The Darwinists' campaign to falsely portray her as a bible-pounding holy-rolling fundy crackpot creationist activist had already fallen flat on its face, because she was one of three finalists chosen from seven semi-finalists out of 24 candidates who were originally considered for the position.

BTW, SiteMeter statistics show that the anti-Yecke Florida Citizens for Science blog, which was cited in Cheri Yecke's Wikipedia biography, has been averaging far fewer hits than this blog, which was excluded from the biography on the grounds of being "non-notable" and "crappy."

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Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

The Darwinists' campaign to rightly portray her as a bible-pounding holy-rolling fundy crackpot creationist activist seems to have worked.

> BTW, SiteMeter statistics show that the anti-Yecke Florida Citizens for Science blog, which was cited in Cheri Yecke's Wikipedia biography, has been averaging far fewer hits than this blog <

That is to be expected. That blog covers too narrow a subject.

Of course this blog was excluded from the biography because, despite the uplift that our posts give it, your rants, mindless repetitions, and ad-homonyms, make it non-notable and crappy.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:00:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

The Googlebots will little note nor long remember the drivelsome crap we blather here.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:08:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

The world will little note nor long remember the drivelsome crap properly called Darwinism. Dawkins:

"What are we but self-reproducing robots?" he asked. "We have been put together by our genes and what we do is roam the world looking for a way to sustain ourselves and ultimately produce another robot, a child."

--Richard Dawkins, as quoted by The Times (London), April 26, 1996. The Current Biography article on this "scientist" repeats the quote.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally, I don't have a problem with her being a fundie bible pounder if she carried out her previous job in Minnesota in an honest and fair manner despite her religious convictions. However, we know that's not what happened. She's shown herself to be dishonest and deceptive by trying to SNEAK intelligent design into the Minnesota science curriculum by using two different copies of the science curriculum drafts, and outright LYING (Not downplaying the significance) about her past efforts to promote creationism and intelligent design. In the end, she's nothing but a hypocritical lying zealot. There is NOTHING from these recent events that would vindicate her from these accusations. How does being among the three finalists vindicate her Larry? Wanna give us the play by play or are you just gonna keep repeating it vaguely over and over in hopes that it becomes true somehow?

Granted I agree that for us Darwinists to take all the credit for Yecke's non-selection is a bit arrogant, but we've all done our parts in a little way. I'll even let you in on a little secret too. While you were sooo busy schmoozing up to Yecke, I was busy corresponding to the good members of the Florida Board of Education upon learning that she was among the three finalists. In addition to email campaigns I started by circulating the Florida BoE contact info wherever I can, I personally wrote to each member stating my concerns about Yecke, her likelihood to introduce intelligent design and creationism into the Florida education system, and my biggest point, the MASSIVE $$$ LAWSUITS that will follow (a la Pennsylvania) when she does do it. I included the link to the Yecke wiki article too, mostly to spite you, Larry, although one bit of dishonesty on my part was stating that it was the MOST accurate biography of Yecke and her career. Letters were mailed with delivery confirmation and I can tell you that all 8 members picked it up. I won't say that my personal efforts were responsible for Yecke not getting the job, but everyone here knows that $$$ lawsuits scare the hell out of most politicians, appointed, elected, or otherwise.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:41:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

Well, at least she uses her real name.

She does have that going for her.

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh I'm sorry, was that a little swipe at me, moulton? Do you wish to "out" my ip address and place of employment like you did with SP? Maybe you can find out who I really am by contacting the Florida board members directly about the return address on the letter they received...

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:00:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Anonymous drivels --
>>>>>> She's shown herself to be dishonest and deceptive by trying to SNEAK intelligent design into the Minnesota science curriculum by using two different copies of the science curriculum drafts <<<<<<

It is impossible to openly "sneak" anything into a curriculum. There apparently was just an honest mistake. And the Wickedpedia article falsely implies that there were two different copies of the science curriculum drafts circulating at the same time.

>>>>>> How does being among the three finalists vindicate her Larry? <<<<<<

She made the cut not once but twice -- when the 24 original candidates were pared to seven semi-finalists and when the semi-finalists were pared to three finalists. She was vindicated because the board of education was obviously not influenced by Darwinists' complaints.

>>>>>> Granted I agree that for us Darwinists to take all the credit for Yecke's non-selection is a bit arrogant, but we've all done our parts in a little way. <<<<<<<

You Darwinist pigs don't get any of the credit -- there is no evidence that the Minnesota incident was a factor in Yecke's non-selection.

>>>>>> her likelihood to introduce intelligent design and creationism into the Florida education system, and my biggest point, the MASSIVE $$$ LAWSUITS that will follow (a la Pennsylvania) when she does do it. <<<<<<

These MASSIVE $$$LAWSUITS have become a thing of the past. The last time such a lawsuit was initiated anywhere was in El Tejon, California (Hurst v. Newman) almost two years ago, and that case never went to trial. Nowadays these lawsuits are being avoided by introducing ID -- and other criticisms of evolution -- in the name of teaching more about evolution.

>>>>> I included the link to the Yecke wiki article too, mostly to spite you, Larry, although one bit of dishonesty on my part was stating that it was the MOST accurate biography of Yecke and her career. <<<<<

?????? How did you spite me by dishonestly linking to an inaccurate Wickedpedia article ?

>>>>>> Letters were mailed with delivery confirmation and I can tell you that all 8 members picked it up. <<<<<<

Delivery confirmation does not confirm that the letters were read or that they had any influence.

>>>>>> everyone here knows that $$$ lawsuits scare the hell out of most politicians, appointed, elected, or otherwise. <<<<<<

And something else that scares the hell out of politicians is being blamed for not passing a bill to put an end to these exorbitant attorney fee rip-offs in establishment clause lawsuits.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:40:00 AM  
Blogger Moulton said...

See The Parable of the Meat Grinder and the Idea Processor.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> It is impossible to openly "sneak" anything into a curriculum. There apparently was just an honest mistake. <

I have some land in Florida that I want to sell you.

> And the Wickedpedia article falsely implies that there were two different copies of the science curriculum drafts circulating at the same time. <

And your evidence that this is false is?

> She was vindicated because the board of education was obviously not influenced by Darwinists' complaints. <

Many people are carried to the last to make a political show. Look at the ugly women who are finalists in beauty contests. You have no idea what influenced the Board of Education. Then again, you have little idea about anything that goes on on this planet.

> These MASSIVE $$$LAWSUITS have become a thing of the past. <

Perhaps because they have been very effective in getting their desired results. They are no longer needed. Just the threat is enough.

> ?????? How did you spite me by dishonestly linking to an inaccurate Wickedpedia article ? <

In what way was it dishonest?

> And something else that scares the hell out of politicians is being blamed for not passing a bill to put an end to these exorbitant attorney fee rip-offs in establishment clause lawsuits. <

It doesn't seem to scare them at all, besides, there have been no rip-offs. If the boards don't want to waste the taxpayers money, they should not engage in illegal activities. I would like to see a bill that makes the board members responsible for these costs in frivolous cases that they lose.

Why did you ban ViW?

Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Sherry D said...

Larry,

If you don't want people to think of this blog as "crappy", try to raise your posts to at least the 4th grade level. To do this, you will have to eliminate the words "fatheaded","sleezebag", and (I know this is your favorite) "dunghill".

We are betting you can't.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger Moulton said...

Notwithstanding Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin ("Jane, you ignorant slut..."), I frankly don't get why Larry favors the pejorative slurs.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some sort of learning disability preventing the use of new insults?

Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

What's wrong with the Shakespeare Insult Generator?

Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

Anonymous said...

> Some sort of learning disability preventing the use of new insults?<

That's likely.

Moulton said...

> What's wrong with the Shakespeare Insult Generator? <

A great suggestion!

I will use it myself to point out that Larry is a odiferous dizzy-eyed dewberry, a goatish flap-mouthed blind-worm, and a mammering bat-fowling skainsmate.

Larry, how can you ban someone and claim to be against censorship

Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:44:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

If any more anonymous demagogues show up here, Larry is gonna have to rent out space over at Kauderwelsch Hell, to make room for so many new arrivals possessed of souls far more evil this pathetic blog is equipped to handle.

Otherwise, how the bloody hell can we accommodate so many incoming demagogues, mendacious manipulators, swaggering soldiers of fortune, nefarious eaters of broken organ meats retained by rival blogs, and creators of vexagonistic lunatic scapegoat psychodrama — so many new arrivals would represent an intolerable wave of acedia, spiritual decay and horror the likes of which Hell has never before seen.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

Good Moulton. But you don't beat the Shakespere site you recommended.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:20:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

How can I possibly beat Shakespeare?

I stole that material from him.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

Good work, Moulton. But the cretin will come back with only "fathead" and 'dunghill".

Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Hector said...

Let's get a pool going. I say the idiot will be unable to reform. He has no clue as to how much damage it does to his credibility.

Besides his obvious insanity, he is clearly not the brightest bulb.

He is supposed to be some sort of de-frocked engineer. I find it hard to believe that someone with his lack of analytical skills could have ever been an engineer. His state engineer's license is shown as "suspended". I wonder what he screwed up?

ViU has an unanswered question. Why did Larry ban ViW? Certainly there are others hitting him harder than VIW ever did.

Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:35:00 PM  
Blogger Moulton said...

One of the most reliable ways to cleanse a toxic culture is to become a leading role-model in changing the culture.

Thus, for example, if one desires to extinguish the unbecoming practice of issuing pejorative epithets such as fathead, dunghill, cretin, or dimbulb, then it behooves those desiring such change to eschew the practice of issuing pejorative epithets of that same caliber.

One must use a smaller caliber epithet than their antagonist if the direction of improvement is toward extinguishing their hostile invocation altogether.

Or, failing that, they must be transformed from terms of disaffection to terms of endearment.

In 1983, Apple Computer ran an ad touting the wonders of word processing. The ad featured successive versions of an angry feedback letter from a disgruntled customer to a clothing manufacturer.

The first version of the angry letter begins with the memorable salutation, "Dear Mush-for-Brains..."

Evidently the main value of such audacious malediction, is that it soothes one's own blood while transferring the rile-factor to the other guy's damnable blood.

And as we all know, blood circulates.

Eventually it comes full circle.

As to why Larry censored Voice in the Wilderness, who knows the ground truth? But my random hypothesis du jour is that something ViW said made Larry's blood boil.

Perhaps it was an audacious malediction, outrageous counterfactual, or unanswerable question.

According to Zen scholar, Robert M. Pirsig, the correct answer to an unanswerable question is, "Mu."

Friday, October 12, 2007 1:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> One of the most reliable ways to cleanse a toxic culture is to become a leading role-model in changing the culture. <

But we have responded to his drivel with logic and that doesn't seem to wear off on him.

> failing that, they must be transformed from terms of disaffection to terms of endearment. <

They perhaps originally were. I was an old friend of Larry and was truly sad to see his mental deterioration. Now I doubt if he still has any friends. He has denied knowing some of his closest.

> As to why Larry censored Voice in the Wilderness, who knows the ground truth? But my random hypothesis du jour is that something ViW said made Larry's blood boil. <

Larry has both denied censorship and at other times, admitted it and tried to rationalize it. Last night about four to six messages on a previous thread that covered more or less this same subject disappeared. They were from three different authors. I would suspect that he has spells of some type but in person, he is always crazy.

Incidentally, his creationist beliefs are not due to religious fundamentalism. They are due to a belief that the world was created and is being continuously manipulated by alien beings.

Friday, October 12, 2007 7:50:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Which is worse, my name-calling or the arbitrary censorship practiced by Fatheaded Ed Brayton, Sleazy PZ Myers, Wes "Ding" Elsberry, Pander's Thumb, Wickedpedia, etc.?

Friday, October 12, 2007 9:06:00 AM  
Anonymous CA Registered Engineer said...

< His state engineer's license is shown as "suspended". I wonder what he screwed up? >

LARRY! How come you don't challenge this sort of slanderous accusation?

For the record: "Suspension" is a temporary invalidation of an engineering license due to some infraction. Larry's mechanical engineer's license has never been suspended, and he has never been subject to any sort of disciplinary action by the Board of Registration.

His license is "cancelled" due to non-payment of the license fees; that is all.

(BTW, I find to my surprise and somewhat amusement that I am apparently "grandfathered" as a licensed surveyor.)

Friday, October 12, 2007 9:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry,

> Which is worse, my name-calling or the arbitrary censorship practiced by Fatheaded Ed Brayton, Sleazy PZ Myers, Wes "Ding" Elsberry, Pander's Thumb, Wickedpedia, etc.? <

The worst is your repetitive and totally disproven claims of arbitrary censorship at any of those sites. You were banned for cause. Get over it.

Dave,

> His license is "cancelled" due to non-payment of the license fees; that is all. <

I am not surprised that he can't pay the fees. Perhaps if he were capable of getting a job, and not depending on the charity of others, he might still have the license.

Friday, October 12, 2007 9:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Dave Fafarman said...

> Which is worse, my name-calling or the arbitrary censorship ... ? <

Larry, please comment on the "free speech" related aspects of the University of Florida Taser incident, as well as whether disciplinary action was warranted against the editor of the Colorado State Univ. student newspaper.

Friday, October 12, 2007 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> Larry, please comment on the "free speech" related aspects of the University of Florida Taser incident <

You are kidding yourself, Dave. Besides, you don't exist. Larry would rather hurl false accusations about censorship while appearing to be the only obvious practitioner.

Friday, October 12, 2007 3:42:00 PM  

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