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My biggest motivation for creating my own blogs was to avoid the arbitrary censorship practiced by other blogs and various other Internet forums. Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles. Comments containing nothing but insults and/or ad hominem attacks are discouraged. My non-response to a particular comment should not be interpreted as agreement, approval, or inability to answer.

Saturday, May 31, 2008

It's OK now Problem with blogging software I took out the Sitemeter

The Sitemeter (which records visitor data) that was at the bottom of the sidebar was causing the trouble, so I removed it. I will try to re-install it later -- hopefully the problem will be cleared up by then.

11 Comments:

Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

I'd noticed that sometimes I get asked for several word-verifications, and sometimes my password gets erased. That never seems to happen on other blogs.

Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:02:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Let's see what happens now. I didn't have any problem with verifications or password last time, but I still couldn't comment by clicking under the preview section.

Hmm. It seems that clicking under the preview section still doesn't work.

Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:22:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Post-Darwinist has a sitemeter, but the same problems didn't seem to exist there. But now she's not accepting comments.

Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:31:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

I've noticed that as soon as I start to post a comment, your sitemeter would time me out as leaving the blog. I found that to be strange, but assumed it's just the way the sitemeter works.

If the trolls or sockpuppets on your blog are as stupid as PZ, they might think that a technical glitch on the blog is censorship:

One PZ cried, "There's a hole
In the ground! And made by a mole?
But it might be my ass,
So I'll carefully pass:
Or I'll stomp on my butt with my sole."

Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:52:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Jim Sherwood said...
>>>>>>I'd noticed that sometimes I get asked for several word-verifications, and sometimes my password gets erased. That never seems to happen on other blogs. <<<<<<

Yes, something like that often happens to me -- it sometimes takes several tries to completely load the comment entry page. And it has happened to me on other Blogger.com blogs.

>>>>>> Let's see what happens now. I didn't have any problem with verifications or password last time, but I still couldn't comment by clicking under the preview section. <<<<<<

>>>>>>>Hmm. It seems that clicking under the preview section still doesn't work. <<<<<<

Yes, I have that problem too -- clicking on the "publish this comment" button under the preview does not work -- only the "publish this comment" button under the comment entry screen at the top works. But some problems with the software are just nuisances whereas others are really serious.

>>>>>>Post-Darwinist has a sitemeter, but the same problems didn't seem to exist there. But now she's not accepting comments. <<<<<<

Well, maybe she had the same problem before but doesn't have it now. The problem comes and goes. The problem could be with Sitemeter, Blogger.com, or both. I don't think it has anything to do with blocking or allowing comments.

>>>>>> I've noticed that as soon as I start to post a comment, your sitemeter would time me out as leaving the blog. I found that to be strange, but assumed it's just the way the sitemeter works. <<<<<<<

I didn't know that Sitemeter had the capability of telling visitors when they are leaving the blog. Could you tell me how that works? And why would that information from Sitemeter be useful? Visitors should know when they are leaving the blog.

I forgot that I had trouble with the Sitemeter before. Also, at the time, I noted the following problems with Blogger.com --

Blogger.com software has had a number of problems, e.g.,

(1) Poor formatting of sidebar link labels in the Layout mode -- there are no spaces or indentations to separate link labels consisting of two or more lines (which is one reason why I still use the Template mode).

(2) Maximum of 20 posts per post label in the Template mode.

(3) I still haven't figured out how to list the most recent comments.

(4) Not user friendly -- software coding that should have been built-in has to be inserted by hand in the right place in the esoteric Template coding -- not an easy job.

(5) I am unable to insert the Sitemeter software into the Layout mode (another reason why I still use the Template mode).

The post label feature -- which did not exist when I started this blog -- has been a tremendous aid. With around 600 posts now, I could not easily find old posts without it. The post label list in the sidebar is also a great help to readers seeking posts on a particular subject.

The Blogger.com software is free and I should not look a gift horse in the mouth.


Thanks for another great limerick.

Sunday, June 01, 2008 6:06:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Larry: I meant that if the Sitemeter records a visitor as arriving on the blog at (say) 5:13 and leaving at 5:22, that may mean only that they started to post a comment at 5:22, even if they actually remained on the blog for a half hour longer, while posting it. The Sitemeter records the time of beginning a comment as the time of leaving the blog: which I find rather strange.

Monday, June 02, 2008 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Jim Sherwood said,
>>>>>> Larry: I meant that if the Sitemeter records a visitor as arriving on the blog at (say) 5:13 and leaving at 5:22, that may mean only that they started to post a comment at 5:22, even if they actually remained on the blog for a half hour longer, while posting it. The Sitemeter records the time of beginning a comment as the time of leaving the blog: which I find rather strange. <<<<<<

?????? The only information shown in "recent visitors -- By Details" is: domain name, visit time (date and clock time) , number of page views, and visit length. Some of the visits with 1 page view show 0.00 visit length.

Monday, June 02, 2008 7:51:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Larry: I hadn't checked this in awhile, but now I see "Time of Visit," "Last Page View," and "Visit Length," which is the difference between the first two.

I've assumed that "Last Page View" is the time of leaving the blog: but maybe not. Perhaps it's the time when one last clicks on a page? But that would be a strange way to define Visit Length, since it will generally be less than the actual time spent on the blog: and perhaps much less.

It would explain the fact that the sitemeter evidently doesn't include time spent composing and making a comment, in arriving at visit length. It might also explain the visits of zero length, also. But it seems strange to me.

Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:05:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Larry: I get the above information by clicking on the numbered boxes at the left, on Recent Visitors by Details.

Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:17:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Jim Sherwood said...
>>>>> I've assumed that "Last Page View" is the time of leaving the blog: but maybe not. Perhaps it's the time when one last clicks on a page? <<<<<<

It looks like it's the last time that one clicks on a page -- i.e., the starting time of the last page view. That would explain the 0.00 visit lengths for the visits with one page view. If you look at the data for each visitor (by clicking on the numbers in the "recent visitors by (visit) details" list page), the "time of visit" and the time of the "last page view" are the same for visits with just one page view. The length of visit is the difference between the two times.

>>>>> It would explain the fact that the sitemeter evidently doesn't include time spent composing and making a comment, in arriving at visit length. <<<<<<

If sitemeter does not include the time spent on the last page visited, then how could sitemeter include the time spent leaving a comment on that page?

>>>>> But it seems strange to me. <<<<<

There is a lot about sitemeter that is strange, but it does provide a lot of valuable information.

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:11:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Right.

Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:33:00 PM  

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