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Thursday, July 24, 2008

The Station for Experimental Evolution


Historical note: The Station for Experimental Evolution merged with the Eugenics Record Office in 1920 to form the Carnegie Institution's Dept. of Genetics.

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13 Comments:

Anonymous Hector said...

This post was pointless even by Larry's standards. I guess he is getting a little bored in his cave.

Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:52:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

The idea is that Darwinism "evolved" into Social Darwinism, culminating in Social Darwinism's influence on the Nazis. Darwinist scientists and philosophers promoted this "evolution," many of them probably not realizing that they were creating a Frankenstein monster. The Eugenics Record Office was closed largely because eugenics' particularly bad influence on the Nazis gave eugenics a bad name.

Friday, July 25, 2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry wrote, "The idea is that Darwinism "evolved" into Social Darwinism,"

This is wrong. "Darwinism" did not "evolve" into Social Darwinism; promoters of Social Darwinism misinterpreted evolutionary theory either in a misguided attempt to understand human societies or in an attempt to legitimate their own racism. On a side note, Foucault has an off the cuff remark that Marxism is a nice 19-century theory, perhaps in line with the attempt to apply biological systems to human societies. R. Buckminster Fuller certainly sees Marx in this light -- arguing that Marx sees the proletariat as the group of humans most likely to evolve and survive given their greatly adaptability and wide range of abilities. Fuller also notes that in the 19th century workers were viewed as retarded, something Fuller attributes in part to a poor diet in the first few years of life that causes a mild retardation -- a loss of IQ points, making success in school hard, even without the need for them to work to support their family.

Friday, July 25, 2008 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> "Darwinism" did not "evolve" into Social Darwinism; promoters of Social Darwinism misinterpreted evolutionary theory . . . <<<<<<

OK, let's just say that Social Darwinism was a "bad mutation."

Cartoons are spoiled by analyzing them to death.

Friday, July 25, 2008 1:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>OK, let's just say that Social Darwinism was a "bad mutation."<<<

Well, if you want to show you have no clue about evolution...oops, sorry, let's use your terms, in case you get confused - 'Darwinism', in any way shape or form, then, yes, let's do that.

Friday, July 25, 2008 1:37:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Undesirable mutations as well as desirable mutations can happen in a station for experimental evolution.

Sunday, July 27, 2008 3:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>>Undesirable mutations as well as desirable mutations can happen in a station for experimental evolution.<<<<

The thing that shows your ignorance of evolution is the idea that it's any kind of 'mutation'.

Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> The thing that shows your ignorance of evolution is the idea that it's any kind of 'mutation'. <<<<<<

Cartoons are spoiled by analyzing them to death or trying to interpret them literally. The cartoon is just intended to be symbolic or figurative. I spent a lot of time searching for a picture that would make a good basis for my cartoon and now you are spoiling the cartoon. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larry wrote, "Cartoons are spoiled by analyzing them to death or trying to interpret them literally. The cartoon is just intended to be symbolic or figurative."

Then why did you post it on an open thread? Why not just keep it to yourself?

Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:22:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Idiot

Sunday, July 27, 2008 3:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>>Cartoons are spoiled by analyzing them to death or trying to interpret them literally. The cartoon is just intended to be symbolic or figurative. I spent a lot of time searching for a picture that would make a good basis for my cartoon and now you are spoiling the cartoon. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.<<<<

No, I'm pointing out how you are completely, totally and utterly wrong. As usual. I did not 'spoil' the cartoon, YOU did - by using it to try to illustrate your completely faulty and flawed argument.

Monday, July 28, 2008 6:08:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>>> I did not 'spoil' the cartoon, YOU did - by using it to try to illustrate your completely faulty and flawed argument. <<<<<<<

You were too dumb to even perceive my "argument," dunghill -- I had to explain it to you and you still don't get it. You are too dumb to understand the meaning of the word "analogy." The cartoon was meant to show that the early promoters of Social Darwinism created -- perhaps unwittingly -- a Frankenstein monster that later strongly influenced the Nazis. Indeed, the Eugenics Record Office was closed because the Nazis gave eugenics a bad name. The cartoon has nothing to do with whether the promoters of Social Darwinism "misinterpreted" Darwinism. OK, so you don't like my interpretation of the cartoon. You interpret the cartoon your way and I will interpret it my way.

Under the Social Darwinism that you love so much, you would be euthanized to protect yourself and others from possible consequences of your gross stupidity.

Monday, July 28, 2008 7:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>>You were too dumb to even perceive my "argument," dunghill -- I had to explain it to you and you still don't get it.<<<<

Sorry, no, I do get it, unless you were simply lying when you said:

The idea is that Darwinism "evolved" into Social Darwinism, culminating in Social Darwinism's influence on the Nazis.

What has been said to you, several times, in this comment thread and the many others where you, basically, say exactly the same thing, is that 'Social Darwinism' and 'Darwinism' have no connection whatsoever, despite the usage of the term 'Social Darwinism', and the erroneous usage of the term 'Darwinism' to refer to evolution to try to forge some kind of connection. So to say that 'Social Darwinism' is a mutation of 'Darwinism', to use your terms, shows an utter ignorance of what you call 'Darwinism'. Of course, the fact you can't even get the name of it correct was a pretty big clue in and of itself.

Monday, July 28, 2008 5:41:00 PM  

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