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Friday, September 26, 2008

"Expelled" movie DVD ad on Answers-in-Genesis website

Some young-earth creationists are unfriendly towards Intelligent Design and other scientific criticisms of evolution because they regard them as sort of blasphemous suggestions that the word of god needs scientific support. However, Answers-in-Genesis, a YEC website, often uses scientific arguments against evolution and sells Michael Behe's ID book "Darwin's Black Box" and the DVD of Ben Stein's ID movie "Expelled: No intelligence allowed." AiG's ad for the "Expelled" DVD is especially enthusiastic:

Special pre-release SALE! Get everyone you know to view this eye-opening documentary. Host a video party at your home! Order now to receive it immediately upon its worldwide release! (Ships beginning October 21)

The lie of evolution must be exposed!


The message of this top-quality expose' will both enthrall and shock you. Ben Stein's amazing, much-discredited (by evolutionists!) documentary is worthy of an Academy Award(R). But it will never receive one, because it reveals that America is losing some of its most important freedoms (academic freedoms, especially in tax-supported institutions) because of what atheistic evolutionists are doing. You will be astounded at what they have already done to squash educational freedom and mock God . . . . .
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A very popular “evolution-busting” tool to expose the lack of academic freedom in America’s schools today, we urge you to use it as a powerful resource for outreach. This film is an excellent springboard to tell people who the real intelligence behind the universe is: the Creator God of the Bible. Buy an extra copy and tell your pastor that the whole church—including the teens—must see it!

Professional review

“Expelled is a highly entertaining and riveting documentary . . . it’s one of those rare films that I urge you not to miss.”
— Ken Ham, CEO/President of Answers in Genesis–USA

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Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> Some young-earth creationists are unfriendly towards Intelligent Design and other scientific criticisms of evolution because they regard them as sort of blasphemous suggestions that the word of god needs scientific support. <

That seems quite irrational. How can something unscientific, like ID, help something that needs scientific support?

Friday, September 26, 2008 7:58:00 PM  
Anonymous egbok said...

> I'm from Missouri <

Must be a typo. You're from Mars.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

"Expelled" should be OK with young earth creationists, since the movie focuses mainly on persecution of dissenting scientists by the Darwinists, and on some harmful consequences of belief in Darwinism, such as eugenics. There is nothing in it either for or against creationism, and very little about ID itself.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:46:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

The movie angered some Darwinist fanatics by accurately pointing out that eugenics was a Darwinist-inspired movement, and that Darwinism helped to foster the rise of Nazism.

But the movie doesn't mention the fact that Benito Mussolini, the first fascist dictator, was an ardent Darwinist.

By 1922, Mussolini was primarily a zealous Darwinist ideologue, as the noted historian R.J.B. Bosworth has observed:

"In his youth Mussolini had expressed his attraction to the thought of both Marx and Darwin. By 1922 it was the philosophy of the latter which had taken control of his mind. His Darwinism, like that of many another, was of a bitter sort. Time and again Mussolini might prove he was the fittest in the world, but somehow the victories were never sweet, the final act, he went on fearing, could yet reveal his every triumph had been but momentary and the end was to be dire." (Bosworth, in his biography, Mussolini, 2002, p. 171.)

"The fittest," of course, was "Il Duce," which means "The Leader" in Italian.

So in 1922, the Darwinist "Leader" of the Fascists ordered his followers on to the "March on Rome," which brought Mussolini to power as dictator.

After Adolf Hitler became the second fascist dictator in Europe, in 1933, "Il Duce" emerged as the ally of "Der Fuehrer" (which means "The Leader" in German.) Hitler had been indirectly influenced by Darwinism. The two "Leaders" set about committing abundant murders, and starting enormously destructive and brutal wars. Lenin and Stalin were also influenced by Darwinism.

So Darwinism has been helping to spawn wars and persecutions for a long time, beginning in the early 20th century. But the Darwin-fans think that nobody should mention that well-established fact of history.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Michael said...

Jim said...

"Expelled" should be OK with young earth creationists, since the movie focuses mainly on persecution of dissenting scientists by the Darwinists...

Very good assessment, you are correct, the movie's focus and such, doesn't really conflict with young earth creationists...

Monday, September 29, 2008 6:52:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

To me, what is amusing is that the ad suggests that the movie was made expressly for YEC's, though it was not.

Monday, September 29, 2008 7:37:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Thanks, Michael.

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:17:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Jim Sherwood said (Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:46:00 PM) --
>>>>>>"Expelled" should be OK with young earth creationists, since the movie focuses mainly on persecution of dissenting scientists by the Darwinists <<<<<<

But all or most of those dissenting scientists are ID proponents. Some YEC's are uncomfortable with Intelligent Design because they see it as questioning god's word by suggesting that the credibility of god's word could benefit from scientific support. For example, in a Jerusalem Post interview of Michael Medved, the interviewer said of ID, "The question is not whether it replaces evolution, but whether it replaces God." And a news report said,

Efforts to popularize "intelligent design" in Turkey are lagging, Reuters suggests, because most Turks "see no need to avoid naming God," but Education Minister Huseyin Celik recently told CNN Turk that "intelligent design" should not be disregarded just "because it coincides with beliefs of monotheistic religions about creation."

BTW, it is ironic that the Turkish education minister said that ID "should not be disregarded just 'because it coincides with beliefs of monotheistic religions about creation' ," because the Darwinists say that ID should be disregarded for that very same reason.

Also, the introduction of the Bob Jones Univ. biology textbook (a 2-volume set) that was rejected by UC in ACSI v. Stearns said, "If the conclusions contradict the Word of God, the conclusions are wrong, no matter how many scientific facts may appear to back them." IMO that is an anti-ID statement because one of the principles of the ID movement is to follow the evidence wherever it leads.

I think that some YEC's view ID and evolution theory as something like the Tower of Babel. The bible says that the tower's builders were trying to make a "name" for themselves by building a tower that would reach heaven. One version of Genesis 11:4 says,

They said, "Come, let us build for ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let us make for ourselves a name, otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth."

So the YEC's may view scientists as trying to make a "name" for themselves by trying to find scientific explanations for life. YEC's may also view ID as related to the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden.

Anyway, Answers-in-Genesis is a YEC outfit, so I was surprised to see the enthusiasm of the "Expelled" DVD ad, though I was aware that Ken Ham met with Ben Stein and endorsed the movie.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:27:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Some creationists' views about intelligent design are described in this article on Evolution News & Views.

Friday, October 03, 2008 12:11:00 AM  

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