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Monday, December 01, 2008

Cincinnati Zoo caves in to Darwinists

A news article says,

The Cincinnati Zoo and the Creation Museum launched a joint promotional deal last week to draw attention to their holiday attractions.. . . .

The zoo pulled out of the deal Monday after receiving dozens of angry calls and e-mails about the partnership, which offered reduced prices to anyone who bought tickets to the zoo’s Festival of Lights and the museum’s Christmas celebration, Bethlehem’s Blessing. . . . .

Zoo officials said the promotion was intended to be no different than any other reduced-cost package deal the zoo offers with other institutions in the area, such as the Cincinnati Reds.

The combo ticket with the Creation Museum was just a one-month holiday-season promotion. What was the big deal?

Apparently this whole protest against this combo ticket was orchestrated by just one blogger, "Sleazy" PZ Myers.

The hypocritical Darwinists pretend to be concerned about science, but they have hurt the Cincinnati Zoo's ability to get more visitors, revenue, and publicity for the purpose of helping the zoo display, study, and preserve wildlife.

I am sure that the zoo is very grateful for the Darwinists' "help" in fulfilling the zoo's educational mission.

With "friends" like these, does the Cincinnati Zoo need enemies?

It will be some time before we learn all of the repercussions.

Again, info on how to contact the zoo is here.



Blogger Gary McGath said...

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that money should be the only criterion the Cincinnati zoo uses in its business dealings. If it can get money by associating itself with a strip club or X-rated movie, I assume you'd be outraged by its pulling out of that?

The purpose of a zoo isn't just to sell more tickets. It's to educate. By allying itself with an operation that attacks not just evolutionary biology, but geology (the Grand Canyon was created in days), astronomy (stars further than 6000 light years out are an illusion), and probably other sciences, the zoo would have been feeding poison to people's minds. No amount of money justifies that.

Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary seems pretty typical of the "tolerance" of these Darwinists. He compares a Christian museum to strip clubs, and then calls Biblical teachings a "poison". Nuff said!

Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:51:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Thanks, Anon.

Gary McGath groaned,
>>>>>> If it can get money by associating itself with a strip club or X-rated movie, I assume you'd be outraged by its pulling out of that? <<<<<<

Maybe the zoo should sell combo deals of zoo tickets and Aryan Nations memberships. And I am a Dodgers fan and so I am offended that the zoo teamed up with the Reds (just kidding).

>>>>>> The purpose of a zoo isn't just to sell more tickets. It's to educate. <<<<<<<

I never thought of teaching evolution as being an important part of the mission of zoos. You Darwinists are obsessed with evolution. The Florida science standards call evolution "the fundamental concept underlying all of biology." You Darwinists stick evolution in people's faces 24/7, 365 days a year.

Incredibly, some protesters have raised the church-state separation issue. If we are going to be simon-pure about church-state separation, then the zoo should not be holding a holiday-season event. In fact, the zoo's name of the event, "Festival of Lights," is another name for Hanukkah.

This controversy has done the zoo far more harm than good. If you hypocritical Darwinists really cared about the zoo, you would have kept your mouths shut about the combo ticket deal with the Creation Museum.

Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Michael said...

Gary doesn't understand correctly, the zoo making a promo with an "X-rated" movie is unrelated to the promo they did with the Creationist Museum.

The Zoo was promoting "Christmas" this is why it sought a one-time promo with the Creationist Museum. Christmas is a religious holiday based on as many people believe with historical figures from the Bible.

It would seem logical to have a joint promo of Christmas since the Creation Museum features those figures.

Now the ones who were upset over such a promo were not upset over the zoo celebrating a religious holiday. After all, even some of their beloved figures like PZ Meyers celebrates Christmas.

I have no vested interest in the Zoo promoting X-mas, because I don't celebrate the holiday like there was no day set aside in Biblical times to celebrate the birth of Jesus.

But what I am concerned about is secularism being defended like a church/state religion in our schools and now our zoos. The Zoo services the community and that means a diversified service. Just like the Jewish holiday was honored by the Zoo. I also don't celebrate that holiday either so no vested interest.

But I find it wrong for the Zoo to cave into special interests and some angry immature letters.

Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:05:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

If the zoo had entered into a joint promotion deal with, say, Aryan Nations, would the NAACP and the ADL be arguing that the deal was not just a business deal but that the deal represented zoo "endorsement" of Aryan Nations? Ironically, the argument that the zoo was "endorsing" the Creation Museum is an argument in favor of the Creation Museum!

Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Darwinism appears to be poison to people's minds, since it's a mixture of dogma and highly improbable fantasy, misrepresented as demonstrable science. And its poisonous influence in helping to foster the murderous Communist, fascist and Nazi dictatorships of the 20th century, is historically well-established. As Pol Pot's ghost puts it:

Pol Pot's Ghost Said...

Old Darwin claimed that blind strife
Has somehow created all life.
I'll honor his creed,
For with it, no need
For intelligence: chaos is rife,

So I'll rip up the system, and kill
Its defenders. Destroy them. I will.
Old Darwin's the way
To our Marxism! Say,
How much blood his dogma will spill,

For if humans are merely machines
Created by death, why, that means
We can break a few "eggs"
When our purpose thus begs
For slaughter. It's all in our genes.

Wednesday, December 03, 2008 4:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Michael said...

If the zoo had entered into a joint promotion deal with, say, Aryan Nations, would the NAACP and the ADL be arguing that the deal was not just a business deal but that the deal represented zoo "endorsement"

Why would the zoo enter a joint promotion deal with radicals? In other words, what would the zoo have in common with those groups? They don't celebrate anything together.

Why would "New Scientist" promote Christmas? I just got an e-mail from them for an ad about their promotion of the holiday.

Christmas is a religious holiday, they are unequally yoked together with a holiday that promotes supernaturalism. How is that different than having a one time promotion with the creation Museum in celebrating X-mas. As you know, that was all the promo was all about.

If the Darwinists are really practicing being unequally yoked together with anything that promotes the supernatural and non-believers who reject evolution, they certainly would not be celebrating X-mas like some have.

As strange as it might seem, PZ Meyers is not at war with X-mas (he couldn't stop it anyway), so he's at war with anyone who disagrees with evolution.

Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:30:00 PM  

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