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Sunday, October 04, 2009

Anti-Defamation League's Darwin problem

An article titled "Richard Dawkins's Jewish Problem," posted by David Klinghoffer on Evolution News & Views and his Kingdom of Priests blog on Beliefnet, says,

The Anti-Defamation League, the country's leading group dedicated to fighting anti-Semitism, is rightly sensitive to the offense of trivializing the Holocaust. Why, then, has the ADL said nothing in protest against the Darwinian biologist and bestselling atheist author Richard Dawkins and his comparison of Darwin doubters to Holocaust deniers?

The ADL has objected to attempts to inject Nazi imagery into the health-care reform debate ("Such statements only serve to diminish and trivialize the extent of the Nazi regime's crimes against humanity"), the abortion debate ("Such analogies can only trivialize and diminish the horror"), the animal-rights debate ("the issue should stand on its own merits, rather than rely on inappropriate comparisons that only serve to trivialize the suffering of the six million Jews"), and in many other contexts.
But if Rush Limbaugh, for example, used "outrageous, deeply offensive and inappropriate" Nazi comparisons to stigmatize sponsors and supporters of health-care reform, why is it no less outrageous to compare people (like the late Irving Kristol, for example) who doubt Darwinian evolution to the moral cretins who deny the Holocaust? In his new book, currently the #22 best seller on Amazon, The Greatest Show On Earth: The Evidence for Evolution, Dawkins calls Darwin critics "history-deniers" and dwells on the comparison, even remarking that "The evidence for evolution is at least as strong as the evidence for the Holocaust, even allowing for eye witnesses to the Holocaust."

David Klinghoffer is completely clueless here. What we have here has nothing to do with "trivializing" the holocaust, David. To the ADL, "trivializing" the holocaust means cynically exploiting the holocaust to further a political agenda, and by that standard, the hypocritical ADL "trivializes" the holocaust as much as anyone. The "trivialization" issue is just a pretext cooked up by the ADL. What the ADL does in regard to Darwinism is try to show it in the most favorable light. The ADL is rabidly pro-Darwinist for the following reasons: (1) Darwinism is opposed by Christian and Moslem fundies, who are despised by the ADL, and (2) the ADL fears that teaching criticisms of Darwinism in the public schools threatens the principle of church-state separation. The ADL went so far as to call the Kitzmiller decision a "victory for students." ADL national director Abraham Foxman angrily denounced the Darwin-to-Hitler message of the Coral Ridge Ministry's TV documentary "Darwin's Deadly Legacy" and an accompanying book, saying, "Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people." However, when Ben Stein's movie "Expelled" also carried a Darwin-to-Hitler message, the ADL was faced with a problem: Ben Stein is Jewish and the movie includes two prominent Jewish supporters -- David Berlinski, an agnostic Jew, and Gerald Schroeder, who even wears a yarmulke in the movie. The ADL initially "solved" the problem by pulling the article denouncing the Coral Ridge Ministry but finally bit the bullet by reinstating that article and adding an article denouncing "Expelled."

Of course, I am very disturbed that Klinghoffer refers to holocaust deniers as "moral cretins," but that is another issue.



Anonymous flangsme said...

"To the ADL, "trivializing" the holocaust means cynically exploiting the holocaust to further a political agenda..."

Do you have a source for that or are you just redefining words again?

Monday, October 05, 2009 7:00:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> Do you have a source for that or are you just redefining words again? <<<<<<<

I didn't redefine "trivializing" -- the ADL did.

Monday, October 05, 2009 9:12:00 AM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

I've never been sure why so many Jews seem to still believe in Darwinist "science," especially since Jews have also been among the most influential debunkers of Darwinism, going back to scholar/historian Gertrude Himmelfarb. Her 1959 book Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution exposed Darwin's faulty reasoning, and demonstrated that Darwinism was actually spawned by a 19th century materialist/atheist intellectual movement. She also took note of the Darwin-to-Hitler connection.

Monday, October 05, 2009 5:02:00 PM  
Anonymous sorling said...

> I didn't redefine
"trivializing" -- the ADL did. <

Can you give us the source of this definition? I don't see it on any ADL site.

Monday, October 05, 2009 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> Can you give us the source of this definition? I don't see it on any ADL site. <<<<<

You stupid dunghill, you lousy Darwinists are the ones who introduced the term "define" -- my original post only described what the word "trivialized" means to the ADL. Now please get the hell out of here before I really get unhappy with you.

Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger Hannah said...

Larry, I sure hope you don't claim to be a Christian, because calling someone a "stupid dunghill" and not being able to control your anger are not Christ-like at all.

Friday, October 16, 2009 8:47:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Well, Jesus was not in control of his anger when he threw the money-changers out of the temple.

Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of bullshit is this?

"Your comment has been saved and will be visible after blog owner approval."

Aren't you violating the basic tenant of your blog? The introduction... oh nevermind... why waste my energy?

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:40:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

I had to abandon the basic "tenant" (sic) of my blog because I was getting comments that contained the following: (1) gossip about my private affairs, (2) lies about objective facts, and (3) nothing but scoffing.

Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that Hitler didn't need Darwin to enact the Holocaust. If you read Mein Kaumpf, you would read that he picks the jews because he sees that they have no nation of their own and views them as parasites, not because he thinks they are violating Darwin's ideas. They compare evolution deniers and holocaust deniers because both groups clearly see something in front of them and claim that it doesn't exist.

Monday, May 10, 2010 1:18:00 PM  

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