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Saturday, October 17, 2009

Darwinists still belittling "Expelled"

The Framing Science blog gleefully reported that Michael Moore's new film Capitalism: A Love Story has moved past Ben Stein's Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed to become the 5th highest grossing political documentary. It is not fair to compare Michael Moore and Ben Stein. Michael Moore is by far the world's most successful producer of documentary films and his name has far more box office recognition than Ben Stein's. Ben Stein's "Expelled" either is -- or is very close to being -- the most successful documentary produced by someone other than Michael Moore. "Expelled" did quite well, everything considered.

12 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is not fair to compare Michael Moore and Ben Stein."

Why not? They're about equally wacky.

It's a sad comment on the tastes of the public, that these jerks sell enough tickets to even recover their production expenses. Not a dime from me, either of them!

Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:52:00 PM  
Anonymous wzork said...

>It is not fair to compare Michael Moore and Ben Stein. Michael Moore is by far the world's most successful producer of documentary films and his name has far more box office recognition than Ben Stein's.<

You seem to be saying that someone who lost a race should be considered the winner because the other runner was faster and therefore a comparison of their speed was invalid.

Monday, October 19, 2009 7:35:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Did I say that Ben Stein should be considered the "winner," you stupid fathead?

Monday, October 19, 2009 9:09:00 AM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

Darwinists use fair means or foul to belittle the movie, in a desperate effort to suppress discussion.

For instance, on the movie database IMDb.com, the movie got a respectable 4.5 rating from US users of the database; but a third of the users were non-US, and they gave it a mierable 1.9 rating, although very few of them can have seen the movie. It was shown mainly in the US.

That brought down the movie's rating at IMDb substantially. A typical, well-organized trick by the sheep who follow the instructions of Dawkins, PZ, et.al.

Monday, October 19, 2009 5:44:00 PM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

The movie's rating at IMDb would certainly have been higher if only those who actually saw the movie had been able to rate it. But many US users of the database also doubtless hadn't seen it; they simply rushed out to give it a miserable rating of "1" on the orders of PZ or of some other rigid and fanatical Darwinist. The existence of a large herd of apparently mindless Darwin-fans on the Internet, is very interesting. Apparently they don't think they can learn anything by exposing themselves to new sources of information. So they would never watch a movie like EXPELLED, which challenges orthodoxy.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles.

Yeah right.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:51:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Bozo, it's a reminder of what my blog used to be like before I received comments containing the following: (1) gossip about my private affairs, (2) lies about objective facts, and (3) nothing but scoffing.

Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, in the race to who fills their movie with more bull, it is pretty darn close.

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rushed out to give it a miserable rating of "1" on the orders of PZ

PZ is in no position to give "orders" to me or to anyone else.

they would never watch a movie like EXPELLED, which challenges orthodoxy.

Well, I'm one of those who gave it a "1" at IMDB. And I have not seen it. (I did, however, see excerpts and read reviews and discussion, enough to know I did not want to support that travesty with my hard-earned money.)

In the past several years I've read three books that "challenged evolutionary orthodoxy", which I found persuasive and wound up agreeing with their arguments. The difference between these and Expelled is that they worked within a scientific framework.

They differed further in not being stupid and dishonest.

Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:37:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Anonymous, when your comment does not immediately follow the comment that you are answering, please identify the comment (by the commenter's name and/or the date and time, as appropriate) that you are answering.

>>>>>>rushed out to give it a miserable rating of "1" on the orders of PZ

PZ is in no position to give "orders" to me or to anyone else. <<<<<<<

You stupid dingaling, Jim Sherwood was obviously using the words "on the orders of" as a figure of speech. And yes, a lot of people do take their "marching orders" from Sleazy PZ -- for example, complaints from members of PZ's "family" are widely considered to be the main reasons for (1) the Cincinnati Zoo's cancellation of a combo-ticket deal with the Creation Museum and (2) the University of Vermont's cancellation of Ben Stein as commencement speaker.

>>>>> Well, I'm one of those who gave it a "1" at IMDB. And I have not seen it. <<<<<

And to think of all the times that I have been criticized for commenting about a book without having read it cover-to-cover -- even when I am just commenting about the introduction, a particular chapter, or someone else's review of the book.

>>>>> In the past several years I've read three books that "challenged evolutionary orthodoxy", which I found persuasive and wound up agreeing with their arguments. <<<<<<

Coming from you, that's quite an admission.

>>>>> The difference between these and Expelled is that they worked within a scientific framework.

They differed further in not being stupid and dishonest. <<<<<<

How do you know, when you haven't seen the movie?

Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous numseshi said...

> Coming from you, that's quite an admission. <

Coming from who? It was an anonymous post.

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:06:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> Coming from who? It was an anonymous post. <<<<<<<

My comment was based on what I would expect from someone who wrote the rest of the post.

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:33:00 AM  

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