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Thursday, April 07, 2011

True morality comes from self-interest,not religion,science, or the evolutionary process

There is a big debate going on as to whether morality originated in religion,science or human evolution. None of these , I believe -- I believe that morality is based on the self-interest of creating a better society for ourselves as well as others. If we all followed the Golden Rule -- do unto others as you would have them do unto you --the result would be a better society for everryone. To me,the bigger question is whether science created immorality - as in the Darwin-to-Hitler link.

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Blogger Lazarus Lupin said...

Most societies, even christian societies, did not follow the golden rule previous to science yet considered themselves moral. Example, hindus still believe it is perfectly moral to treat lower castes differently from upper castes. Example: In nearly all christian cultures till the start of the 20th century women certainly were not accorded the same rights as men and that was considered perfectly moral.

As another point saying it's "Self interest" doesn't answer the question because where does self interest come from? In nature thre are life forms that are incredibly selfless (the bee) to selfish and we would call evil to see the same behaviours in a human (the cuckoo)

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Saturday, April 09, 2011 5:17:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Lazarus the quibbler said,
>>>>>>Most societies, even christian societies, did not follow the golden rule previous to science yet considered themselves moral.<<<<<

Let me say that self-interest can be the basis of morality -- religion,science, and evolution are not needed.

>>>>>As another point saying it's "Self interest" doesn't answer the question because where does self interest come from? In nature thre are life forms that are incredibly selfless (the bee) to selfish and we would call evil to see the same behaviours in a human (the cuckoo)<<<<<

I am talking about human self-interest and human morality --sheeesh.

Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:45:00 AM  
Blogger Lazarus Lupin said...

Larry not a quibble. I'm trying to help you frame your thoughts here. You can't say "it was self interest not evolution..." if self interest comes from an evolutionary force.

Sunday, April 10, 2011 2:51:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Lazarus, you are trying to make this too complicated.

Sunday, April 10, 2011 4:25:00 PM  

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