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Monday, May 14, 2007

The myth of "meticulous" Nazi holocaust records

An AOL news article says,

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (May 13) - As the Third Reich headed to defeat in World War II, the Germans burned millions of records to cover up history's worst genocide. But the fraction that survived was enough to make up the largest Nazi archive in existence . . . . .

. . . . . The 11-nation commission governing the International Tracing Service, an arm of the International Committee of the Red Cross, meets in Amsterdam Monday and Tuesday to decide when and how to make electronic copies of its files available to researchers.

So far the archive of 30 million to 50 million pages in Bad Arolsen, Germany, has been used only to help reunite families and verify restitution claims. The files were closed in 1955 because it was feared that unfettered access could violate the privacy of Holocaust victims, both living and dead.

Who in the hell cares about protecting the "privacy" of people who have been persecuted, tortured, and murdered?

The Nazis destroyed 90 percent of their files, said Dieter Pohl, of the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich. The office headed by Adolf Eichmann, who orchestrated the transport of millions of Jews to the gas chambers, began burning its records in February 1945, nearly three months before Germany surrendered.

So not only were the overwhelming majority of the records destroyed, but what remained was not generally opened to researchers.

Among the documents that survived are millions of pages of death registers, concentration camp records, transport lists, and internal Nazi communications, such as Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler's command to evacuate the concentration camps before they were captured.

"No prisoner must be allowed to fall into the hands of the enemy alive," it said.

Why would the Nazis have allowed such a document to fall into enemy hands? And we know that some prisoners were allowed to fall into the hands of the enemy alive.

Over the decades, the Tracing Service has responded to some 11 million inquiries from survivors or families, but it has rarely allowed anyone to view the actual records. However, the U.S. National Archive and Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial were allowed to copy some of them in the early 1950s.

Why all the secrecy? I smell a conspiracy here.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

> I smell a conspiracy here. <

Nobody doubts that you smell but your bathing habits are way off the subject. As for the conspiracy, do you still believe in your conspiracy theories as to the Moon landings and such?

Monday, May 14, 2007 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Onymous said...

< Why would the Nazis have allowed such a document to fall into enemy hands? >

Perhaps being forced to retreat under daily shelling and air raids alters one's priorities, and/or is dangerous to one's health.

Monday, May 14, 2007 1:20:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> Why would the Nazis have allowed such a document to fall into enemy hands?

Perhaps being forced to retreat under daily shelling and air raids alters one's priorities, and/or is dangerous to one's health. <<<<<<<

The article said that the Nazis had nearly three months to destroy the records. It seems that the above record would have been one of the first to go. Anyway, we know that the order was never carried out.

Monday, May 14, 2007 1:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Who in the hell cares about protecting the "privacy" of people who have been persecuted, tortured, and murdered?<<<

Obviously not psychopaths like you.

Monday, May 14, 2007 1:46:00 PM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

>>>The article said that the Nazis had nearly three months to destroy the records. It seems that the above record would have been one of the first to go. Anyway, we know that the order was never carried out.<<<

Larry apparently doesn't know any Holocaust history. The order was, in fact, carried out many times. But sometimes there wasn't enough time to carry out the order. Ever hear of death marches?

Laryy, here's an order. Post a response to this before anyone else posts.

Monday, May 14, 2007 2:36:00 PM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

So, did you carry out my order?

Monday, May 14, 2007 2:37:00 PM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

Ohh, I guess not. In Larry's World, I guess that means I never gave the order.

Monday, May 14, 2007 2:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Wilderness said...

> In Larry's World, I guess that means I never gave the order. <

You have him figured. Perhaps you don't exist because of your typo?

Monday, May 14, 2007 3:30:00 PM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

Larry, you should know that your reputation is being impugned. Orac over at Respectful Insolence has decided that you aren't "the stupidest Holocaust denier of them all" You need to go over there and reclaim your title!

Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:24:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

That's good news. That helps attract people to this blog so they can see all the other good stuff I have here.

Friday, May 25, 2007 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous W. Kevin Vicklund said...

What good stuff? All you ever post are ignorant rants that demonstrate your lack of legal, biological, historical, and ethical knowledge.

Friday, May 25, 2007 8:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Orac the Impugner said...

Stupidest Contest

Friday, May 25, 2007 1:31:00 PM  

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