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My biggest motivation for creating my own blogs was to avoid the arbitrary censorship practiced by other blogs and various other Internet forums. Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles. Comments containing nothing but insults and/or ad hominem attacks are discouraged. My non-response to a particular comment should not be interpreted as agreement, approval, or inability to answer.

Friday, May 11, 2007

Hypocritical Electronic Frontier Foundation concerned only about bloggers

The hypocritical Electronic Frontier Foundation claims to be concerned about defending the rights of all Internet users but is in fact concerned only with defending the rights of bloggers. The "About EFF" webpage says,
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From the Internet to the iPod, technologies are transforming our society and empowering us as speakers, citizens, creators, and consumers. When our freedoms in the networked world come under attack, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is the first line of defense. EFF broke new ground when it was founded in 1990 — well before the Internet was on most people's radar — and continues to confront cutting-edge issues defending free speech, privacy, innovation, and consumer rights today. From the beginning, EFF has championed the public interest in every critical battle affecting digital rights.

However, the EFF website is concerned only with defending the rights of bloggers. The EFF website has nothing about defending the rights of blog commenters on the issues of arbitrary censorship of comments, libel on blogs, the right of a libel victim to post a rebuttal on the blog that libeled him/her, etc.. And though cyberbullying hurts both bloggers and commenters, there is nothing on the EFF website about cyberbullying.

Below are the email addresses of the EFF staffers, for those who want to send in a protest --

bankston@eff.org, katina@eff.org, ren@eff.org, andrea@eff.org, cindy@eff.org, hugh@eff.org, pde@eff.org, gwen@eff.org, marcia@eff.org, rebecca@eff.org, erik@eff.org, julie@eff.org, corynne@eff.org, le@eff.org, nicole@eff.org, danny@eff.org, lety@eff.org, seth@eff.org, jason@eff.org, derek@eff.org, sobel@eff.org, ssteele@eff.org, lee@eff.org, fred@eff.org, mattz@eff.org, doctorow@craphound.com, jstyre@eff.org
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Anonymous Voice in the Wilderness said...

> The EFF website has nothing about defending the rights of blog commenters on the issues of arbitrary censorship of comments <

Blog commenters have no such right. Why should the EFF try to establish a right that doesn't exist?

> libel on blogs <

You have never presented an example of this. Telling the truth about someone is not libel. You seem to believe that telling the truth about someone is gossip.

> the right of a libel victim to post a rebuttal on the blog that libeled him/her, etc. <

There is no such right and you have failed to even show that there is a problem. Where is someone being libeled on a blog?

> And though cyberbullying hurts both bloggers and commenters <

"Cyberbullying" is your term for posting arguments that you cannot refute against your positions. Sorry Larry, that is just debate.

Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> The EFF website has nothing about defending the rights of blog commenters on the issues of arbitrary censorship of comments <

Blog commenters have no such right. Why should the EFF try to establish a right that doesn't exist? <<<<<<

And pajama-clad bloggers have no right to the reporter's privilege -- they are not professional reporters. Why should the EFF try to establish a right that doesn't exist?

>>>>> libel on blogs <

You have never presented an example of this. Telling the truth about someone is not libel. <<<<<<

So you think that there is no such thing as libel on blogs? Tell that to the law professor who wrote the law journal article titled, "Should online defamation be criminalized?"

ViW, don't you ever get tired of being humiliated on this blog? I think that some people are starting to suspect that you are just a sock puppet feeding me lines to help me prove my points.

Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Wilderness said...

>>> You have never presented an example of this. Telling the truth about someone is not libel. <<<

> So you think that there is no such thing as libel on blogs? <

That's not what I said, is it? Give us an example of where you have been libeled.

> ViW, don't you ever get tired of being humiliated on this blog? <

I don't find exposing your shallowness and hypocrisy to be humiliating for me. Perhaps it is for you.

> I think that some people are starting to suspect that you are just a sock puppet feeding me lines to help me prove my points. <

Why don't you for once prove one of your points?

Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:36:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>> Give us an example of where you have been libeled. <<<<<<

So if I cannot give an example of where I have been murdered, then murder should not be a crime, right?

Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Voice in the Wilderness said...

>>>>> Give us an example of where you have been libeled. <<<<<<

> So if I cannot give an example of where I have been murdered, then murder should not be a crime, right? <

Larry, you are making yourself out to be a fool. Why don't you try reading VIWs posts before attempting to answer them? VIW is just trying to make you look like a nutcase and you are playing into his hands.

Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:53:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

It was a brilliant retort, if I may be so humble as to say so.

Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Wilderness said...

> It was a brilliant retort, if I may be so humble as to say so. <

No it just shows that you are in the dark as usual. If you really believe that you are making brilliant statements, you are even more delusional than we first believed.

P.S. I did not make the last post. I don't know who did or why, but they were quite on the point.

Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Unclear on the Concept said...

It was a brilliant retort, if I may be so humble as to say so.

Monday, May 14, 2007 12:50:00 AM  

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