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Friday, September 07, 2007

UC questions holocaust!

The "Plaintiffs' Statement of Uncontroverted Facts and Conclusions of Law in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment" in ACSI v. Stearns says,

UC rejected courses on the holocaust for having only a Jewish viewpoint: "[n]eed to include a different perspective and a broader viewpoint" and "[n]eed to expand the perspectives for this course," and "too slanted towards Holocaust with no other perspective." (pages 18-19 of document, pages 21-22 of pdf file)



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, to be fair, in addition to the Jews, ethnic groups such as the Poles, Slavs, and Gypsy along with homosexuals and others deemed undesirable by the Nazis were also rounded up and slaughtered under the Holocaust, so their points of view should also be considered.

However, the only point of view that should NOT be mentioned are the modern day neo-Nazi Holocaust deniers who outright say that the effects of the Holocaust were greatly exaggerated or outright didn't happen. Or maybe mentioned as a sort of joke reference to modern day ignorance.

Friday, September 07, 2007 10:44:00 AM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Why should any point of view not be mentioned? We should be open to all points of view.

IMO those who think that the holocaust did not happen at all are a tiny minority, but IMO a substantial number of people think that the Jewish holocaust has been exaggerated.

The issue of identification of Jews and non-Jews should be a central part of holocaust studies but has been almost completely ignored. Edwin Black claimed that his book "IBM and the Holocaust" solved the mystery of how the Nazis identified the Jews, but the book fell flat on its face.

Friday, September 07, 2007 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Voice in the Urbanness said...

> but IMO a substantial number of people think that the Jewish holocaust has been exaggerated. <

A substantial number of people (including you at one time) think that the moon landings were faked. The Flat Earth Society has a constantly growing membership.

> The issue of identification of Jews and non-Jews <

Is not at all difficult. Your attempts to show otherwise have all resulted in you falling flat on your face.

Friday, September 07, 2007 2:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So where do you fit in to this? Are you the minority which deny the Holocaust entirely, or are you those who question the magnitude of the number of Jews who fell victim to it?

Friday, September 07, 2007 2:19:00 PM  

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