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Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Sleazy PZ Myers' arbitrary censorship goes off the deep end

I still get a lot of trolls' comments accusing me of arbitrarily censoring visitors' comments. I also get trolls' comments complaining that my following commenting policy is too harsh: (1) no scoffing-only comments, (2) no gossip about my private affairs, and (3) no lying about objective facts. I don't publish a lot of these comments because they violate the comment rules themselves. Of course, these lousy trolls don't complain about the really bad arbitrary censorship that happens on Darwinist blogs.

The Darwinists are finally getting a taste of the really bad arbitrary censorship that I have experienced on Darwinist blogs. Here is a comment exchange on Panda's Thumb where Sleazy PZ bans a commenter for not financially contributing to the National Center for Science Education [link]:
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PZ Myers | April 28, 2009 9:40 PM | Reply | Edit
Raging Bee, stuff it.

You’re done commenting in this thread. I’ll let you back after you’ve sent in your check to the NCSE. Until then…your hypocrisy is intolerable.

jfx replied to comment from PZ Myers | April 28, 2009 9:53 PM | Reply | Edit
What the hell? In order to defend the NCSE on a blog, you have to contribute money to them?

PZ Myers, your authoritarian jackassedness is intolerable. I don’t need to tell you to stuff it. You already stuffed it. Reason, logic, civility…you’ve stuffed them all, right up your own arse. Who made you Culture Czar? Who made you God of the Blogosphere? Come down off your high embryo, and grow a pair of civilized balls.

Sheesh. Jerk.

PZ Myers | April 28, 2009 10:01 PM | Reply | Edit
Raging Bee’s persistent shrieking over this issue implies that he or she thinks the NCSE is very important. That he or she won’t even plunk down a few dollars in support of the organization is a rather stark contrast – no, you don’t have to be a member of the organization to post here. But throwing hissy fits on behalf of an organization that obviously means so little is hypocritical and offensive. Raging Bee is out of this discussion for being a dishonest fraud.

And what about you, O Hysterical Defender of the NCSE? Are you a member, too?

Dale Husband | April 28, 2009 10:02 PM | Reply | Edit
This discussion has spiraled out of control. I’m done with it.

I am proud to head Sleazy PZ's "killfile dungeon" list of commenters who are banned from his Pharyngula blog.

I am also delighted to see the Darwinists quarreling among themselves over that lousy outfit, the NCSE.

I also found this gem on the same comment thread:

Registered User | April 28, 2009 9:07 PM | Reply | Edit

. . . . .Every time that the creatards are kicked in the shins, they need to be kicked in the stomach, too, and thrown in the dumpster before they regain consciousness. Rhetorically speaking, of course. The idiocy, the sick lying idiocy, the warped bigoted ignorance-embracing agenda, it must be brought up and put out into the open at every opportunity. It will take time but constant ridicule and scorn will ensure that eventually more and more people will “get it.”

But the lame pandering and the condescending “Try science – it goes great with religion!” has got to stop. It’s puke-worthy and transparent and makes us look as shallow and craven as the creotards who tell kids to “get high on Jesus.”

These are the Darwinists that the signers of the Clergy Letter are trying to appease. As Winston Churchill said, "an appeaser is someone who feeds a crocodile in the hope that it will eat him last."
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Anonymous Michael said...

PZ Meyers didn't ban the guy for not contributing a small amount to the NCSE. He will generally ban people who are very persistent with their viewpoints in which he disagrees with in particular over a duration of time.

It's like certain talk shows on the radio, only the host can have a persistent viewpoint otherwise they cut the callers off.

It is interesting how they are going after the NCSE for not attacking religion like they themselves do. Both (PZ and NCSE in general) are wrong when it comes to religion and evolution.

Saturday, May 02, 2009 8:37:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> PZ Meyers didn't ban the guy for not contributing a small amount to the NCSE. <<<<<<

Wrong -- read what PZ said. He said he would unban the guy after the guy sends money to NCSE.

>>>>> It is interesting how they are going after the NCSE for not attacking religion like they themselves do. <<<<<<

Wrong. PZ and the other atheists are not asking NCSE to attack religion -- they only want NCSE to be neutral.

>>>>>> Both (PZ and NCSE in general) are wrong when it comes to religion and evolution. <<<<<<

One can't be right or wrong about these things -- it's a matter of opinion. But some people have better-supported opinions about that than others have.

Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Michael said...

Wrong. PZ and the other atheists are not asking NCSE to attack religion -- they only want NCSE to be neutral.You take PZ too literally. How much money is enough for PZ to unbanned the man? One dollar, two dollars, 100 dollars? You really think PZ would allow the guy who annoys him quite considerably to allow the man to post in his blog for 3 dollars? lol

Wrong. PZ and the other atheists are not asking NCSE to attack religion -- they only want NCSE to be neutral.Evolution is not neutral! I do not believe they want it to be "philosophically neutral" because it would strengthen "their mission of spreading Darwinism."

Monday, May 04, 2009 6:25:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Michael said...
>>>>>Wrong. PZ and the other atheists are not asking NCSE to attack religion -- they only want NCSE to be neutral.You take PZ too literally. How much money is enough for PZ to unbanned the man? <<<<<<<<

Michael, you are confusing two separate issues here:

(1) -- whether PZ and the other atheists want NCSE to attack religion or be neutral.

2) -- PZ's banning of a commenter for not sending money to the NCSE.

>>>>>> Evolution is not neutral! I do not believe they want it to be "philosophically neutral" because it would strengthen "their mission of spreading Darwinism." <<<<<<

I can't understand what you are saying here.

Monday, May 04, 2009 7:19:00 PM  

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