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This site is named for the famous statement of US Congressman Willard Duncan Vandiver from Missouri : "I`m from Missouri -- you'll have to show me." This site is dedicated to skepticism of official dogma in all subjects. Just-so stories are not accepted here. This is a site where controversial subjects such as evolution theory and the Holocaust may be freely debated.

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My biggest motivation for creating my own blogs was to avoid the arbitrary censorship practiced by other blogs and various other Internet forums. Censorship will be avoided in my blogs -- there will be no deletion of comments, no closing of comment threads, no holding up of comments for moderation, and no commenter registration hassles. Comments containing nothing but insults and/or ad hominem attacks are discouraged. My non-response to a particular comment should not be interpreted as agreement, approval, or inability to answer.

Wednesday, April 09, 2008

Florida legislators tell Judge Jones to go to hell

Fortunately, several Florida senators on the judicial committee had the balls to defy Judge "Jackass" Jones' vaunted "Dover Trap" by passing an "Evolution Academic Freedom" bill.[1]2]3]. The vote was a fairly lopsided 6-3 (maybe even 7-3 according to a disputed vote count).

Other "academic freedom" bills have been introduced in Louisiana and Missouri (the "Show Me State" and namesake of this blog). These academic freedom bills are needed to counter intimidation by Kitzmiller v. Dover, Selman v. Cobb County, etc.. The threat of exorbitant attorney fee award rip-offs in establishment clause cases ($1 million in Dover, negotiated down from an original bill of over $2 million approved by Judge Jones) discourages government officials from doing things that the courts might find to be constitutional. Because of tightwad taxpayers, public officials are fearful of risking a single dime of tax money for payment of legal expenses.

The "Dover Trap" is looking more and more like the paper tiger that it is.

However, some of the Missouri bills go too far, IMO. The NCSE says,

In 2004, the sponsor of HB 2554, Representative Robert Wayne Cooper (R-District 155), introduced two bills, HB 911 and HB 1722, that called for equal time for "intelligent design" in Missouri's schools. HB 911 moreover would have provided that "Willful neglect of any elementary or secondary school superintendent, principal, or teacher to observe and carry out the requirements of this section shall be cause for termination of his or her contract," a draconian provision that was absent from HB 1722. Both bills failed. In 2006, Cooper introduced a third bill, HB 1266, which would have provided that "If a theory or hypothesis of biological origins is taught, a critical analysis of such theory or hypothesis shall be taught in a substantive amount." Like HB 911 and HB 1722, HB 1266 ultimately failed, although it passed by a 7-6 vote by the House Elementary and Secondary Education Committee.

I am surprised that a bill as unreasonable as HB 1266 passed a legislative committee, even by a small margin.

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ADOLF HITLER'S THOUGHT FOR THE DAY



Alternative statement: evolution is the fundamental concept underlying all of Nazism (taken from wording in the new Florida state science standards).

I never made a big deal before about the Darwin-to-Hitler connection because that connection of course has nothing to do with the scientific merits of Darwinism. My new emphasis on that connection is a retaliation for Darwinists' harping on their false claim that all criticisms of Darwinism are based on religion.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was just about to comment how more than any other we can count on Larry to present the most tendentious interpretation of events in the most specious way, but then I remembered the Discovery Institute's blog.

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Tightwad Taxpayer said...

"Academic Freedom", my ass.

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Just-so stories are not accepted here."

Who but a proponent of "Intelligent Design" would fail to see the irony? What other kind of "story" is that?

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger Jim Sherwood said...

What do you see as unreasonable about HB 1266, Larry?

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 4:14:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

Jim,

HB 1266 says, "If a theory or hypothesis of biological origins is taught, a critical analysis of such theory or hypothesis shall be taught in a substantive amount." For example, evolution theory contains several different concepts, e.g., common descent, random mutation, natural selection, genetic drift, macroevolution, microevolution, and punctuated equilibrium. What if there is no scientific challenge to a particular concept? For example, there is no challenge to microevolution -- microevolution is accepted even by creationists. Requiring a substantive amount of time for a challenge to each concept is unreasonable.

Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the scientific community, there is no scientific challenge to evolution, period.

Do you know something they don't Larry?

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Alt-Anonymous said...

Larry "knows" lots of things. Occasionally one will be correct, but that is not to be wagered on.

Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Friday, April 11, 2008 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the basis of what did you conclude that the Florida legislators told Judge Jones "go to hell"? From what you say and what I've read, they said nothing to him nor did they direct anything to him. I'll go even further and say that they demonstrated no knowledge of the Dover case (which might explain their actions). Show you what? The insanity? You claim to want the facts but you have done nothing more than engage in cheap yellow journalism and sensationalist rhetoric that has nothing to do with the facts but has everything to do with your obsessions. Which number is Jones again? You would have saved all five of your readers 30 seconds by using the code proposed a while ago.

Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:30:00 PM  
Blogger Larry Fafarman said...

>>>>>> On the basis of what did you conclude that the Florida legislators told Judge Jones "go to hell"? <<<<<

I was obviously speaking figuratively -- duh. As I said, what I meant was that the legislators had the balls to stand up to Judge Jones' vaunted "Dover Trap."

>>>>> I'll go even further and say that they demonstrated no knowledge of the Dover case (which might explain their actions). <<<<<

I disagree -- I think they probably know that the Dover decision is a crock of shit.

Monday, April 14, 2008 1:48:00 AM  

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